Legislature(1995 - 1996)

05/02/1995 02:04 PM House HES

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 SB 58 - USE OF THE TITLE "INDUSTRIAL HYGIENIST"                             
                                                                               
 Number 1692                                                                   
                                                                               
 AARON TRIPPLER, Director of Government Affairs, American Industrial           
 Hygiene Association (AIHA), said the AIHA is the world's largest              
 association of occupational and environmental health professionals.           
 AIHA has long been involved with the process of title protection              
 for the profession of industrial hygiene.  The practice of                    
 industrial hygiene is an important tool for protecting the health             
 and safety of workers, their families and the community.                      
                                                                               
 MR. TRIPPLER said with an increased emphasis on the environment               
 today, there is the possibility of unqualified individuals                    
 representing themselves to the public as capable of protecting                
 health and safety.  The result could be devastating.                          
                                                                               
 MR. TRIPPLER continued that title protection for the profession of            
 industrial hygiene simply protects that profession and those titles           
 so everyone is assured the individual calling themselves an                   
 industrial hygienist is qualified.  The AIHA is not trying to                 
 exclude anyone from involving themselves in the industrial hygiene            
 profession.  It is only that those unqualified individuals cannot             
 use the term.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 1757                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY said she had been approached this session by the              
 dietitians and nutritionists.  They also wanted a bill to protect             
 the words "dietitian" and "nutritionist."  Co-Chair Toohey                    
 commented at that time that she is a dietitian.  She is a mother              
 and a grandmother therefore, she is a dietitian.  Anytime one                 
 person feeds another, he/she is a dietitian.  Co-Chair Toohey                 
 resents the fact that the someone would restrict her calling                  
 herself a dietitian, a nutritionist or a feeder of people.                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY did not want to besmirch the industrial hygienist             
 profession, but anytime laws are passed that restrict calling                 
 oneself or anyone else a name, the English language is being                  
 restricted.                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY said she could call herself a doctor if she wanted            
 to, and that is her business as long as she does not do                       
 unprofessional things.  She has a problem excluding the use of a              
 word or a series of words because one group wants to keep their own           
 esoteric membership.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 1822                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. TRIPPLER said there are many professions that use title                   
 protections.  Such titles include certified public accountants and            
 waste water treatment operators.  The AIHA does not want to                   
 restrict a person from calling him/herself an industrial hygienist,           
 as long as he/she does not represent him/herself to the public and            
 claim that he/she has the qualifications necessary to assist                  
 someone else by legal standards as an industrial hygienist.                   
                                                                               
 MR. TRIPPLER said a certified industrial hygienist has a degree in            
 the sciences, five years experience, and passes a two day                     
 examination.  There are many consequences that could result from              
 people posing as industrial hygienists.  For example, the schools             
 in the state of New York, a few years ago, were closed down at the            
 beginning of the year because of an asbestos threat.  That threat             
 was the result of the school contracting with individuals who                 
 called themselves industrial hygienists qualified in asbestos                 
 abatement.                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. TRIPPLER said the schools eventually had to go back and find a            
 truly certified industrial hygienist to clean up the asbestos                 
 situation.  Therefore, the AIHA is not trying to restrict people              
 from participating in the field.  A person just cannot present                
 themselves to the public as a certified industrial hygienist.                 
                                                                               
 Number 1884                                                                   
                                                                               
 PENNY GOODSTIEN, Representative, Anchorage Branch/Midnight Sun                
 Section, AIHA, said she has been working for 17 years as an                   
 industrial hygienist.  There have been people in Anchorage that               
 have presented themselves as industrial hygienists.  There is much            
 money to be made doing health and safety work.                                
                                                                               
 MS. GOODSTIEN recounted a story in which she was working as a                 
 substitute site safety manager.  A man who was an environmental               
 engineer told people he was also an industrial hygienist.  He was             
 in charge for months, and he put the organization on the wrong                
 respirator all summer long.  Luckily no one was hurt.  Someone                
 could have become very seriously ill.   That man also did incorrect           
 air sampling and did not know what he was doing.                              
                                                                               
 Number 1923                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. GOODSTIEN said the man called himself an industrial hygienist             
 and everyone believed him.  In addition, Ms. Goodstien has seen               
 people make business cards claiming they are certified industrial             
 hygienists.  That indicates quite a bit of training, and further              
 training must be taken every year by actual certified industrial              
 hygienists.  The charlatans were hired based on the credentials               
 they claimed to have.  There is presently no way to protect the               
 public.                                                                       
                                                                               
 MS. GOODSTIEN feels this is a public health issue more than it is             
 an issue of protecting the industrial hygienist profession.  It is            
 the public who hires the industrial hygienist.  There are cases all           
 over the country in which fraud was prevalent.  In Arizona, a                 
 shopping center spent $2 million to remove asbestos that was not              
 there because a non qualified person identified asbestos.  That               
 person was getting a kickback from the laboratories and making                
 quite a bit of money.                                                         
                                                                               
 MS. GOODSTIEN concluded therefore, it is not only a public health             
 issue, it is an economic issue.                                               
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY asked her to elaborate on the economic problem.               
                                                                               
 MS. GOODSTIEN said when a business or organization, such as the               
 Arizona shopping center, hires a non qualified person who makes a             
 wrong "diagnosis," and $2 million is spent correcting a problem               
 that does not exist, that creates economic problems.  The shopping            
 center was shut down, stores lost money.  Therefore, not only are             
 there health issues, but people can end up spending a lot of money            
 they do not need to spend.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 1995                                                                   
                                                                               
 JANET OGAN, Legislative Secretary to Senator Loren Leman, testified           
 on behalf of the sponsor of the bill that SB 58 was introduced at             
 the request of the Midnight Sun Section of the AIHA.  Presently,              
 according to the AIHA, there are 15 certified industrial hygienists           
 in Alaska.  AIHA recommends this legislative and regulatory                   
 language to provide title protection.  The title protection defines           
 titles and definitions used by the profession.  It establishes                
 legal recognition and protects industrial hygiene titles.                     
                                                                               
 MS. OGAN said those titles may be used by only those who meet the             
 criteria outlined in the definitions.  An individual who does not             
 meet the criteria may practice within the scope of the meaning of             
 industrial hygiene so long as the individual does not use the                 
 titles, initials or represents him or herself to the public as an             
 industrial hygienist.                                                         
                                                                               
 MS. OGAN noted that other states have also implemented this                   
 legislation such as California, Illinois and Tennessee to name a              
 few.  Many other states are planning to introduce such legislation            
 this year.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 2057                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR BUNDE noted that the bill refers to people who have                  
 graduated from a college or university that is accredited by the              
 Alaska Council on Postsecondary Education.  Therefore, he said a              
 traditional college or university would give such degrees.  He said           
 there must be college programs in industrial hygiene, but                     
 understood that one could also have degrees in biology, chemistry             
 or engineering.                                                               
                                                                               
 MS. OGAN said Co-Chair Bunde was correct.  There is a board exam              
 that must be taken and passed.  A college degree is not the only              
 requirement necessary to be certified.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 2085                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS said he had a little trouble identifying with            
 the bill, as he has never belonged to a profession that needed to             
 protect its name.  He has either been a ditch digger, which no one            
 wants to admit; or a politician, which no one wants to admit.                 
                                                                               
 JEFF CARPENTER, Member, Midnight Sun Section, AIHA, spoke via                 
 teleconference in support of SB 58.  He added that this legislation           
 will also insure that state or local government agencies do not               
 restrict the practice of industrial hygiene.  The prohibition that            
 occurs in SB 58 has also been done in other states.  However, other           
 states are even more restrictive.  In California, a registered                
 architect must sign off on asbestos abatement plans even though               
 that architect may have no knowledge of asbestos health hazards and           
 work place health hazards in general.  The architect may have no              
 specific training in industrial hygiene at all.                               
                                                                               
 MR. CARPENTER said an industrial hygienist or even a certified                
 industrial hygienist must take their plan to an architect, get a              
 stamp of approval on it, and then proceed with their work.  SB 58             
 would insure that state or local government agencies do not                   
 restrict the practice of industrial hygiene by qualified persons              
 identified in SB 58.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 2169                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY asked how long the schooling and testing would take           
 for a biologist to become an industrial hygienist.                            
                                                                               
 MR. CARPENTER said he has a degree in biology.  He did not begin              
 his studies in college with the forethought of becoming an                    
 industrial hygienist.  However, he wanted to give something to the            
 community.  As a biology graduate, he needed to gain experience in            
 anticipating, evaluating, recognizing and controlling health                  
 hazards in the workplace.                                                     
                                                                               
 MR. CARPENTER continued that typically, to gain membership to a               
 professional organization such as the AIHA, five years of                     
 professional practice is required in anticipating, evaluating,                
 recognizing and controlling health hazards in the workplace.  In              
 addition to that experience, one must submit references, work                 
 experiences and an application to the American Board of Industrial            
 Hygiene.  A two day certification exam is then taken.                         
                                                                               
 Number 2229                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR BUNDE closed public testimony and asked for the wish of              
 the committee.  Representative Davis made a motion to move SB 58 am           
 from committee with individual recommendations and accompanying               
 fiscal notes.  Co-Chair Toohey objected, and a roll call vote was             
 taken.  Voting "yes" were Representative Davis, Representative                
 Rokeberg, and Co-Chair Bunde.  Voting "no" were Co-Chair Toohey,              
 and Representative Vezey.  SB 58 am passed out of the House HESS              
 Committee.                                                                    

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